Podcast 128 Different Mindsets

By on May 14, 2015

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In this podcast I talk about the different self defense mindsets people come from. Most are from the Military, Law Enforcement, or Competition world. Each brings a different thought process to the table and different biases that you should look out for. Learn from them all. Have a “take the best and leave the rest” attitude toward your own self defense.


Podcast Outline:

Story: Shooting from the hip as suppressive fire. A wounded warriors thoughts on self defense here in “The Real World.”

Story: A 1st Sgt in the Marines Corps that was a highly trained SWAT officer and my conflict with him about tactics because of his background vs. mine.

Prevailing Thoughts:

  • Civilians – Worried about themselves and liability
  • Police – Only worried about going home that night
  • Military – Worried about failing their team and mission accomplishment, and going home has it’s own set of worries, different then civilians

Military Thinking:

  • Acceptable Losses
  • Accepts Collateral Damage
  • Friends that will help all the time
  • Long Engagements get lots of support
  • Offensive most of the time
  • Known objective someone else defines
  • Suppressive Fire is accepted and works
  • Movement elements always
  • Mission is everything
  • Other people more important then themselves

Police Thinking:

  • Different Equipment different tactics
  • Radio to get help
  • Seeks out bad guys
  • Wants to arrest bad guys with enough to prosecute or take to jail
  • Hands on with Bad Guys
  • Expected to press forward in danger
  • Use to closer engagement distances because of hands on policy
  • Attitude
    • Benn there done that
    • Complacency
    • Going home at the end of shift no matter what

Competitive Shooters’ Thinking:

  • Thinks Timer is the same stress
  • “How do you know it’s a game?” Keeping Score is their answer… The truth is no one is trying to kill you
  • Tiny increments of time make a huge difference in their world
  • Everyone has the same goal, same equipment, same mindset
  • Multiple tries at the same or different problems (called stages)
  • Walk-through before having to shoot it

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  1. RickP
    May 19, 2015

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    During the podcast you hit on one of my pet peeves when it comes to a particular tactical scenario, “the 21-foot rule”. When I hear that reference, all I can think about is Mas pulling his knife out and swinging in the air, the razor’s cut, (or whatever he calls it.) Basically, you’ve sliced yourself up in court.

    “Mr. Smith you say you know of the 21-foot *RULE* yet when you shot and killed Mr. Johnson, forensics shows that he was at 24’8″ away and he *only* had a pipe in his hand. Knowing what you just described to the court as your understanding of the 21-foot *RULE*, how can you claim self-defense in this instance?! *Obviously*, the victim was outside the distance at which you, *yourself*, described someone as dangerous!” Etc., etc,.

    I know you know this and probably just slipped during the podcast but compared to the 9mm vs. 45. debate and which is better, the Glock vs. 1911, the statement of the “21-foot rule” can land one in prison whereas the others might just get one kicked in the ‘nads. 😉

    • Ben Branam
      May 20, 2015

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      You are right of course, and I need to explain it better and stop calling it a rule but a study for academic purposes and learning how dangerous someone can be at a given distance. I should give the meaning of that distance, within 21 feet get your freakin gun in hand and start creating distance.

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