Podcast 91 Vehicle Fighting

By on June 13, 2014


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Fighting in and with your vehicle is hard.  We all use our cars, trucks, and vans everyday.  Inside we think we are safe.  But are we? Not really.  Like everything there are advantages and disadvantages to them.  Listen to this podcast and learn what you don’t know.

Topics Include:

Your Car is a False Sense of Safety

  • Emotionally Vested in the Vehicle
  • Not much stops bullets
  • Vehicles are Bullet Magnets, RPG Magnets, and IED Magnets
  • Easily Put into an Ambush or Stopped
    • Lights, Traffic, Traffic Accidents, Flat Tires
  • You’re Strapped in
  • Stuck inside
  • Predictable Exits


  • Speed
  • Big and Heavy
  • Somewhat a Metal Safety Box

Using a Vehicle

  • On How to Drive, Check up these episodes:
  • Know your Vehicle’s limitations and advantages
    • Large, Small, Fast, and Mini Vans
  • Your Vehicle is a weapon
  • Use it First before anything else

Fighting From a Vehicle

  • Disadvantages
    • Strapped into a Seat
    • Limited mobility
    • Limited access to weapons
    • Limited use of weapons
  • Advantages, not many
    • You are partially obscured
    • Luck, Bullets do funny things when they pass through cars
  • Skill Levels
    • Amateurs will try to get a clean shot
    • Partially Trained people will shoot at the vehicle and miss the people
    • Pros will aim at where the driver is
  • Weapons inside the vehicle
    • Forget striking weapons
    • Edged Weapons work in close quarters
    • Firing a Gun Inside
      • Watch for Others
      • Stuff Flying
      • Pistol
      • Revolvers
      • Rifles/Shotguns

Get Out

  • Opposite side of fight
  • Swim out the far side
  • It’s going to hurt
  • Practice just your side, think about where the gun is
  • Go slow the other side for practice
  • Muzzle Awareness
  • Hug your rifle and land on the other side if possible
  • My Default is towards the back of the vehicle once outside if you are alone, doors shut that way
  • Make space from the vehicle (bullet magnets)
  • Shoot Under
  • Shoot Through
  • Don’t chase or be chased around the vehicle
  • Find cover somewhere else
  • Teach your family to exit away from the threat
  • Hold what you got to let others escape
  • Bound and cover if possible

Do’s and Don’ts

  • Do open the door and stand behind it if possible, Don’t put your hands in the crack of the door, it’s going to shut on you
  • Do put your feet on the ground if the vehicle isn’t moving.  Don’t keep your feet in the vehicle, sooner or later you’ll want to move and that makes it hard
  • Do use your vehicle.  Don’t be afraid of hitting something
  • Do escape if possible.  Don’t stand and fight.
  • Do get as much information as you can.  Don’t follow someone to get more info, it looks bad
  • Do meet the police someplace else. Don’t go home or don’t just stop.
  • Don’t assume everyone know the plan, Do give it to them before hand, even if it’s just the basics
  • Don’t get boxed in, do leave yourself an out.
  • Do know the area, at least a little, don’t just follow directions step by step by someone else or a GPS
  • Do use the horn if something seems wrong, don’t be afraid to break some traffic laws


  • Aug 9, 2014 Beyond Concealed Carry with Author Glen Tate in Seattle WA, Sold out, waiting list only
  • Sep 27, 2014 Beyond Concealed Carry in Houston TX
  • Oct 11, 2014 AR Rifle Fighting Dynamics in San Antonio TX
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  1. Ken Silva
    June 13, 2014

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    The ideal weapon is a fire extinguisher, scissors, or a chair. Perhaps we need to carry these items in our vehicles. See Seattle Post-Intelligencer for reference.

    • Ben Branam
      June 13, 2014

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      I’m not sure where you are going on this? I read the article and the picture says everything. When professionals show up, they bring rifles. As an expert I’d say get away whenever possible but if you can’t follow what the experts do, they bring big guns and all their friends with guns.

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